Crossed Z and 7?

Peter Rukavina

Today’s completely non-corporation-related question: when printing with a pen or pencil do you “cross” your Z or 7? Although I was never taught to do this, at some point in the murky past I started to unconsciously cross both, something I wasn’t really aware of until G. pointed it out this morning.

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Submitted by Johnny on

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This was a question on Jeopardy last night, and the indication was that Europeans tend to cross their 7’s, whereas North Americans don’t.

Submitted by Derekmac on

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Neither, but sometimes zeroes if there is ambiguity between them and the letter “O”. I also make my ones, letter l’s, and sevens distinctly different so there is no ambiguity.

Submitted by matthew bennett on

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I still cross my zeros. I only cross my Z’s when I write it too curvy, and it looks like a 2.

Submitted by jypsy on

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7’s always, Z’s and zeroes sometimes (30-50% ?)
Do you make 8’s by making 2 balls or one, long “figure 8 shape”?

Submitted by Jonas on

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Didn’t cross 7 until a few years back, but now always since people sometimes confused it with 1. Z remains uncrossed by me for now.

Here’s another one. How do you write 1? One line, one line with small roof, one line with small roof and bottom serif, or one line with a very big roof (almost an upside-down V). I vary a lot between the three first variants. The upside-down V seems to be continental Europe, but don’t know how widespread it is.

Submitted by Peter Rukavina on

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@jonas I switch back and forth between the “one line with small roof and bottom serif” and “one line” method for printing a 1.

Submitted by Peter Rukavina on

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Just realized that I also write my “small a” typographically — i.e. not just “circle plus line” but “with left-point branch off the top.”

It’s becoming obvious that handwriting needs its own choreographic language.

Submitted by Melissa on

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I don’t recall being taught to cross my 7’s or z’s, but I always do both - just to make sure they don’t get confused in my handwriting. I think I started doing so because I had European penpals as a child and loved how their handwriting looked.

When addressing envelopes, I also tend to cap my 1’s and cross 0’s so there is no confusion.

Submitted by Graham on

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i cross my z’s if i’m doing math so as not to confuse them with 2’s. i cross my 7s if i am writing mostly words (though i’m less sure as to why). zeros, for me, are crossed rarely, for stylistic purposes.

Submitted by Dan on

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I cross my 7s so that I don’t get confused with the number 1
I cross my Zs so that I don’t get confused with the number 2
I don’t cross my 0s

Submitted by Mark on

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I’ve crossed both my 7’s and Z’s since grade school, I remember it being mentioned and myself thinking it was the most logical way to write, nowadays it’s automatic and generally understood so I don’t question it. I’ll only cross 0’s if there’s good reason to (a variable o, O) though I subconsciously nag myself about consistency when I do :p

Submitted by gdb on

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I do cross my Zs and sevens because my mom does and I used to slash my zeroes until my math teacher from Denmark got it confused with the Danish letter Ø.

Submitted by Autoharp Bill on

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When I was younger I did not cross anything, but people misread me, so at first I started crossing Z, then crossing 0, then crossing 7. Another one that I do and I’m surprised nobody has mentioned it, is crossing my V. V was getting misread as U and vice-versa; more than once someone read it wrong and I ended up getting the wrong part. I saw a friend of mine crossing his Vs about 15 years ago, I picked it up and I have not gone back.

Sometimes people ask what that character is; I tell them and they agree it makes sense

Submitted by Tiff on

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I started to cross my 7s because in my handwriting, and because I do ledger work, my 2s and my 7s look incredibly similar (my 7s tend to have a tail). Never really had a problem with letters that needed fixing.

Submitted by dile on

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Always cross the 7 and always use the base and head of the 1. Don't cross 0. I was taught this way by my French-Canadian and Irish mother. And my a, whether cursive or printed, is never without its top!

Submitted by Kenneth Bakke on

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I don't care if you went to a school, in Europe or not, I did a MAN's job, in the military in Germany, and Italy where to avoid confusion over hand written orders the 7's were crossed to avoid confusion with the European 1, that's hand-written in 'serif' style, with a 'lower lip' and the '0 - ZERO' was with a \ through it.

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